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14 June 2010
Decent speakers, good value
1 of 1 found this helpful These are by no means performance speakers or studio monitors, and they're not pretty (unless you think black formica and plastic is sexy), but they're difficult to beat in this price range for a simple setup.
They're ideal to give more clarity and depth to TV in a spare room or for casual background music in a home office/study. They'll run well on a very small amp (even the ultra tiny amps that are built into the all-in-one style CD/DVD/receivers out there), but can come alive with a nicer one if you so choose. They also would make good back-rears in an entry level (entry = less than about $7.5k for speakers/amps/sources/cables) 7.1 home theater setup as long as the fronts matched reasonably well, sonically...like higher model Bostons.
Audio nuts: don't expect to get any inspiring lows or airy highs out of these, but hook these up to a couple hundred dollar receiver like a Denon or Yamaha (avoid Sony until you can justify the ES line...and when you can justify the cost of ES line you can likely do better...below the ES line of receivers, cut the rated at least "watts per channel" in half to get a reasonable estimate of effective driving power) and you have a really pleasant, casual setup that's dirt cheap and doesn't even require a subwoofer to get some richness out of if you don't want one. Leave the crossover off, and they'll respond to some double digit frequencies unless you really crank them up.
In this price range, all speakers are pretty much the same in terms of performance: not at all inspiring. I personally chose these because I prefer Boston's smoother warmth to play soothing, lower-blood-pressure music in an extra room. Others might want something that's a little less subtle, in which case you'd probably look at something like Mirage or especially Klipsch (you can beat on them more with Rock or Pop that you want to sound deliberately "hard"). Just avoid speakers like Sony, Samsung, JVC, etc etc (ESPECIALLY Bose. They're arguably the least inspiring speaker at any price range you compare them at. They're the no-brainer, color-coded setup, all in one, homogenized coma brand that septuagenarians get when they move to Florida and leave their cabinet AM radio with single paper woofer back in Wisconsin).
If a company makes a whole bunch of different types of products, they usually don't many any of them well (or only have one thing they do well, and just saturate the market with other hastily-made garbage for OCD people who like to collect stuff that's all the same brand-name). All Sony products are NOT garbage by any means. I don't intend to pick on them here, and they wouldn't be the huge company they are if they sold garbage. However, you'll regret spending the money you did on a Sony speaker setup when you hear a similar priced system made by a company that specializes in speakers. Entry level speakers and amps are NOT what you buy from Sony.
Also, size does matter. No matter what bizarre claims they make, speakers that fit in the palm of your hand are never going to sound as warm and solid as something like this Boston even with just an inexpensive 6" vented woofer. The point of small speakers is that they can visually disappear. If you can justify sacrificing the space, it's worth it.
13 June 2010
Brutal subwoofer you'd have to spend 3X to outperform.
6 of 6 found this helpful In a virtual swamp of specious "specs" and ridiculous claims, it's best to absolutely disregard the numbers and go listen to the subwoofers you're interested in at a store that specializes in audiophile equipment. I got a contemptuous grin when I saw the "10Hz" claim, and anyone who really knows what a clean 20Hz sounds/feels like does the same when they read that. Most rear satellites with a pair of 5" woofers in them claim 40Hz, which is bizarre even for most floorstanding speakers (and quickly proven wrong when an explosion in an action movie causes a loud cracking noise in the woofer).
Working at an audiophile equipment store for years has given me the opportunity to hear some of the best from Klipsch, Martin Logan, Velodyne, Krell, Thiel, and others (and even outright garbage like Sony, Bose, Mirage, Polk, Altec Lansing, etc). Some stuff well out of my price range (the Krell Master Reference, for one), and some stuff I'd be embarrassed to have in a college dorm room hooked to my computer.
What I was looking for was a subwoofer that could be as savage as possible for BluRays without sacrificing much for audiophile music. I can't justify the cost of having a separate system for my SACD/DVD-Audio, so my theater room has to double as my listening room.
I narrowed my choices down to the Definitive Trinity, JL Audio Gotham, Elemental Designs A7-900, and Velodyne DD18. After listening to all of these subwoofers properly tuned and placed in a listening room, the decision was not difficult. As far as foundation-damaging concussions in movies, only the Gotham outperformed it. Shockingly (for something with 2 14" drivers and 4 passive radiators), it was invisible and articulate with any style music I threw at it...as articulate as the Gotham, which is 4X the price (and I have become particularly fond of those woofers, as I have a 12W7 in my car).
The lowest, near infrasonic, pipeorgan notes are effortlessly hurled into the room with precision at any volume I could tolerate, and it seemed as if it was laughing at me for thinking that would be a challenge. A notorious track showcasing the unreasonably massive Wurlitzer pipe organ hung from the ceiling at Oaks Park just about broke the french doors 2 rooms away. I took the time to rip a few tracks from DVD-Audio discs (Legion of Boom, Blue Man Group, an Eagles track which is 192khz/24bit) and run it through a ProTools filter that lowers the bass (Aphex Big Bottom Pro) -- nothing made it seem like it was "trying" at all. It may be a bit too accurate to recreate the buzzing discomfort of rap music in a good club, but it is VIOLENT nonetheless. I was shocked to discover that it could belt out synthesized 10Hz notes in a way that just made it seem difficult to breathe (no audible sound, just organ jarring pressurization of the room), confirming the "specs".
Black Hawk Down is known for its 11Hz concussions, and this subwoofer is extremely violent in that movie while remaining absolutely invisible. Transformers 1/2 are very infrasonic aggressive movies to show off with it. Just smooth, tight, effortless, authoritative realism with no "buzzing" or compression.
Set the crossover to below 80Hz (below 60Hz if all of your speakers can pull their weight)...it becomes directional and noticeable above 60-80Hz. With everything set, this will give your YoYo Ma/Chris Botti disc beautiful weight and move your couch around the room during Black Hawk Down without adjustments.
You'll spend $12k+ to top this.

28 March 2019
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These get addicting. I love “hey Siri”ing my house for everything from anywhere in the world.